And you didn't even mention the damage that Gladue has done to the justice system and how there are now race-based laws and the concomitant sentences (or non-sentences) based on the thin excuse of "intergenerational trauma," that thing that appears to make every perp a victim of "reconciliation" (something that will never be achieved because only one side knows the rules). The reason indigenous people are over-represented in the penal system in Canada is because they commit the most crimes. Full stop. If you want to change this incarceration ratio address the big ole elephants in the room, don't change the legal system to favour one demographic group.
Such a great comment. Totally true! I thought about getting into Gladue but opted to leave it out for brevity.
On the other end of the ledger from punishing people more lightly based on their skin colour is the fact that they are considering increasing sentences for people based on the skin colour of the person they commit an offence against. This already happens to some degree by defining certain acts as "hate crimes". ie: if you are a black person who bludgeons a white person to death in a drug-fueled rage, that's not a "hate" crime. But if you are a white person who kills a native person in a fight, you could be more heavily sentenced if a judge determines that there was hate in your heart.
What I actually find humourous is that we are soon to have competing woke values embedded in the justice system - rules for harsher punishment for crimes against "racialized" people, and rules for lighter sentencing FOR "racialized" people. But since most crimes against "racialized" people are committed by other "racialized" people, it is a case of the unstoppable force and the immovable object.
Kind of like the taxpayer funded MMIW report, which never mentions the fact that most indigenous female homicide victims are killed by indigenous males. I was "kind of" a Trudeau supporter (because I didn't particularly like the Conservative leader at the time) until the Boushie trial when he AND the AG of Canada used social media to deride a trial decision and insinuate that the Canadian judicial system was flawed. That prompted Jody to put in her poison pill "no litigation" directive before she "quit" (quotes intended), a directive that has greatly contributed to the current project budget deficit and will continue to do so unless a new government puts the brakes on.
Yes - that was a terrible moment in Canadian history when we crossed a line from kinda woke to fully woke. Raybould was a horrible identity hire. An indigenous "activist" (her words) with zero relevant experience who was promoted to a position of great power. Some have made her out to be a hero since she fought with Trudeau. But it remains that she did terrible things to our country that will echo far into the future.
There is little accountability for what you do these days. There are a number of excuses made to benefit the person accused of something. So if the individual takes no responsibility for their actions and a judge or jury do not implement any accountability for the action, then we find ourselves where we are today. Our legal system is as fractured as our medical system.
In Sydney the cops have indeed thrown up their hands & now make it their mission to help the rich criminals....other than adding that, i think your article should be studied in every law school in the country.
I’m thrilled to see Americans elect Trump! It’s time for our own incompetent government, driven by destructive woke ideology, to be replaced. I can’t wait for the next election!
I knew we were in trouble in Canada in April of 2013 when Justin Trudeau, then freshly elected as leader of the Liberal Party, stepped to the microphone in the aftermath of the horrific Boston Marathon bombings to prattle on about "root causes", as if our focus should have been on what "past life trauma" caused these young terrorist to do what they did, rather than locking the bastards up so they couldn't do it again.
are we not at the point where society as a whole, us law abiding citizens who respect each other and property needs to be protected from the criminals ?
More and more people in the US (including Democrats) are hiring private security or personally arming themselves. Gated communities are becoming more common even in Canada where they were once rare. It's a predictable and logical response to the erosion of the justice system.
Gated communities, indeed, communities segregated too much by wealth, are a significant impediment to the proper functioning of a society. Small towns where doctors and lawyers live a few blocks from "the wrong side of the tracks" have a way of keeping everyone sane and realistic about life, and risk, and reward, and hardship, and ultimately justice.
We're currently on a Caribbean island (a rare luxury!). Yesterday we witnessed kids crossing a crazy busy two lane road to haggle with shop keepers over what sweets they can buy with the coin in their pocket, while parents both races fought for spots to pick their kids up. Racial disparities aside, it was a refreshing look at how life used to be, and can be, when people live together and don't coddle their kids into incompetence and the ignorance that comes from an overly sheltered existence.
That said, the changes in the justice system that led us to this state started generations ago and have worsened under both Liberal and Conservative governments. Terrible things happened under Harper, as much as I liked some of what he did. (I don't like anything that Trudeau has done!)
It's a mess. Our social order. Social disorder and distortion.
Canada's judiciary is filled with 'woke-liberals'. The SCC is but nine woke liberal Justices. At least in the U.S. the bench is balance not just on SCOTUS but across its entire judiciary some of whom are elected. Far more robust and accountable - despite its own corruption issues.
Judges who don't adhere to the blind principles of justice only serve to undermine it in the psyche of the people and citizens it serves. Once people perceive justice is corrupted, it's game over. Then Richard Wagner wonders why trust in the justice system is breaking. Poo tee weet, Richard?
Politically, the Liberals only made it worse with laws like Bill C-75. Like, it almost feels like our political masters look at places like Minnesota, Oregon and California and their overt Marxist posture and say, 'Yup. That's the model to copy'.
I think judges have always favoured the establishment, of which they are part, but of course the establishment in western countries has changed dramatically so the libwokeleft and their causes are favoured, compounded by the rise of the activist judge.......with two or multi-tiered justice, which is the negation of justice, the consequence. The whole system is thoroughly in disrepute wherever you go. A chum recently advised not to go to court in NS as it is now a capricious lottery depending on which judge you end up in front of.....and it cannot be right that failed liberal candidates and long term doners are rewarded with the bench or senate.
And you didn't even mention the damage that Gladue has done to the justice system and how there are now race-based laws and the concomitant sentences (or non-sentences) based on the thin excuse of "intergenerational trauma," that thing that appears to make every perp a victim of "reconciliation" (something that will never be achieved because only one side knows the rules). The reason indigenous people are over-represented in the penal system in Canada is because they commit the most crimes. Full stop. If you want to change this incarceration ratio address the big ole elephants in the room, don't change the legal system to favour one demographic group.
Such a great comment. Totally true! I thought about getting into Gladue but opted to leave it out for brevity.
On the other end of the ledger from punishing people more lightly based on their skin colour is the fact that they are considering increasing sentences for people based on the skin colour of the person they commit an offence against. This already happens to some degree by defining certain acts as "hate crimes". ie: if you are a black person who bludgeons a white person to death in a drug-fueled rage, that's not a "hate" crime. But if you are a white person who kills a native person in a fight, you could be more heavily sentenced if a judge determines that there was hate in your heart.
What I actually find humourous is that we are soon to have competing woke values embedded in the justice system - rules for harsher punishment for crimes against "racialized" people, and rules for lighter sentencing FOR "racialized" people. But since most crimes against "racialized" people are committed by other "racialized" people, it is a case of the unstoppable force and the immovable object.
Kind of like the taxpayer funded MMIW report, which never mentions the fact that most indigenous female homicide victims are killed by indigenous males. I was "kind of" a Trudeau supporter (because I didn't particularly like the Conservative leader at the time) until the Boushie trial when he AND the AG of Canada used social media to deride a trial decision and insinuate that the Canadian judicial system was flawed. That prompted Jody to put in her poison pill "no litigation" directive before she "quit" (quotes intended), a directive that has greatly contributed to the current project budget deficit and will continue to do so unless a new government puts the brakes on.
Yes - that was a terrible moment in Canadian history when we crossed a line from kinda woke to fully woke. Raybould was a horrible identity hire. An indigenous "activist" (her words) with zero relevant experience who was promoted to a position of great power. Some have made her out to be a hero since she fought with Trudeau. But it remains that she did terrible things to our country that will echo far into the future.
Read Peter Best's excoriation of one of Jody's books on his website: https://thereisnodifference.ca/?page_id=1739
I read and loved his "There is no Difference" book and follow him on Woke Watch. Thanks for this link.
his review of Talaga's book is just scathing.
There is little accountability for what you do these days. There are a number of excuses made to benefit the person accused of something. So if the individual takes no responsibility for their actions and a judge or jury do not implement any accountability for the action, then we find ourselves where we are today. Our legal system is as fractured as our medical system.
In Sydney the cops have indeed thrown up their hands & now make it their mission to help the rich criminals....other than adding that, i think your article should be studied in every law school in the country.
I’m thrilled to see Americans elect Trump! It’s time for our own incompetent government, driven by destructive woke ideology, to be replaced. I can’t wait for the next election!
I knew we were in trouble in Canada in April of 2013 when Justin Trudeau, then freshly elected as leader of the Liberal Party, stepped to the microphone in the aftermath of the horrific Boston Marathon bombings to prattle on about "root causes", as if our focus should have been on what "past life trauma" caused these young terrorist to do what they did, rather than locking the bastards up so they couldn't do it again.
I had forgotten about that incident. It's hard to believe but he got so much worse since that his initial bouts of idiocy have been eclipsed.
Legal and justice systems should NEVER be used to accomplish social goals.
are we not at the point where society as a whole, us law abiding citizens who respect each other and property needs to be protected from the criminals ?
More and more people in the US (including Democrats) are hiring private security or personally arming themselves. Gated communities are becoming more common even in Canada where they were once rare. It's a predictable and logical response to the erosion of the justice system.
Gated communities, indeed, communities segregated too much by wealth, are a significant impediment to the proper functioning of a society. Small towns where doctors and lawyers live a few blocks from "the wrong side of the tracks" have a way of keeping everyone sane and realistic about life, and risk, and reward, and hardship, and ultimately justice.
We're currently on a Caribbean island (a rare luxury!). Yesterday we witnessed kids crossing a crazy busy two lane road to haggle with shop keepers over what sweets they can buy with the coin in their pocket, while parents both races fought for spots to pick their kids up. Racial disparities aside, it was a refreshing look at how life used to be, and can be, when people live together and don't coddle their kids into incompetence and the ignorance that comes from an overly sheltered existence.
Nothing will change until we get a different federal government.
Even then, crime will have to get far worse than itis now. The majority of Canadians have not yet been personally affected.
I agree the JT government is a disaster.
That said, the changes in the justice system that led us to this state started generations ago and have worsened under both Liberal and Conservative governments. Terrible things happened under Harper, as much as I liked some of what he did. (I don't like anything that Trudeau has done!)
It's a mess. Our social order. Social disorder and distortion.
Canada's judiciary is filled with 'woke-liberals'. The SCC is but nine woke liberal Justices. At least in the U.S. the bench is balance not just on SCOTUS but across its entire judiciary some of whom are elected. Far more robust and accountable - despite its own corruption issues.
Judges who don't adhere to the blind principles of justice only serve to undermine it in the psyche of the people and citizens it serves. Once people perceive justice is corrupted, it's game over. Then Richard Wagner wonders why trust in the justice system is breaking. Poo tee weet, Richard?
Politically, the Liberals only made it worse with laws like Bill C-75. Like, it almost feels like our political masters look at places like Minnesota, Oregon and California and their overt Marxist posture and say, 'Yup. That's the model to copy'.
I don't know, man. Pass the beer nuts.
I think judges have always favoured the establishment, of which they are part, but of course the establishment in western countries has changed dramatically so the libwokeleft and their causes are favoured, compounded by the rise of the activist judge.......with two or multi-tiered justice, which is the negation of justice, the consequence. The whole system is thoroughly in disrepute wherever you go. A chum recently advised not to go to court in NS as it is now a capricious lottery depending on which judge you end up in front of.....and it cannot be right that failed liberal candidates and long term doners are rewarded with the bench or senate.
This situation is why women should not be allowed the vote or to hold any position of authority. Too many feelings get in the way.